“Wait, So is this a Date?” Podcast Episode 103: Dating Via Instagram | Autostraddle

Recently on “hold off, Is it a night out together?” we are joined by Autostraddle culture publisher and my personal teasing hero
Shelli Nicole
! Our very own major subject this week is actually Internet dating via Instagram therefore enter into most of the details of that which was voted by a jury of us to be the ideal queer internet dating software.

Shelli stocks the woman wisdom and self-confidence. We share my personal knowledge and neuroses. And Christina is actually a rather likely student — and class clown. In order to begin us off we perform a game of warning flags, an individual attack on us.

PROGRAM RECORDS

+ Speaking of warning flag, I think concerning this quotation from

BoJack Horseman

everyday:

+ here’s
Shelli’s essay
about the woman cellphone that will continue to leave myself in awe.

+ this is my personal chaotic quarantine
Instagram post
that worked remarkably well. (She turned into a Libra.)

+
My Kesha ballad playlist
!!

+
The solitary
Shelli mentioned by Lex Amor.

PS:



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Shelli:

Basically was getting together with some body and I also’m posting — especially if i am aware that I uploaded something in which I seem brilliant that time, and you also imply it has already been up right here for four hours and I also’ve been scrolling along with your little ass hasn’t viewed it however? Preciselywhat are you carrying out?

Theme song plays

Drew:

Hi, I’m Drew.

Christina:

I Am Christina.

Drew:

And this is

Hold off, Is It a Date?

Christina:


Hold off, Is It a Date?

is actually an Autostraddle podcast everything about matchmaking.

Drew:

In which we ask the question, “hold off, so is this a date?”

Christina:

Like, is it a date?

Drew:

It is an essential question within the queer neighborhood, i do believe.

Christina:

It is a question we’re maybe not inquiring adequate, some might state. I believe reports can be found in, research tend to be hot, and they are stating, “do not understand. We just don’t know.” Drew, you should inform people who you really are?

Drew:

I am Drew Gregory, I’m an author for Autostraddle and that I’m a filmmaker, and I also’m a trans lady, and a lesbian, and a dyke, and a faggot.

Christina:

That is simply very tight. I will be Christina Tucker, I am additionally a writer at Autostraddle. I’m form of just like a deranged queer online. For fun, I recently discovered that I am not sure how-to lace upwards shoes, which was some thing I discovered me these days. Actually a fun journey getting on. I additionally in the morning a lesbian, Im a Black lesbian. Additionally type of a faggot, let’s not pretend.

Drew:

A whole lot thus.

Christina:

Like let’s be honest, let’s not pretend. Had been I playing a live form of “forever” like three moments before we hopped onto this recording? No person can say for certain. There is evidence excluding the image I delivered Drew, but there’s no evidence of it.

Drew:

Yeah, I was browsing state, I’m able to state without a doubt. I could say certainly.

Christina:

Fair sufficient. Do you want to play a casino game, Drew?

Drew:

Oh my personal Jesus, i’d like to play a-game.

Christina:

Okay, which means this game — we had a very focused video game at myself the other day.

Drew:

Its correct.

Christina:

That was extremely enjoyable, therefore we believed it’s time to focus on Drew.

Drew:

Oh guy.

Christina:

And this is called “warning flag.” Therefore I’m planning describe a conversation, only a little scenario, one, a moment in Drew’s relationship, and I also’m just attending provide, we’re merely attending experience this small connection and there’s going to end up being a few red flags which come up, and now weare going to see what is the red-flag that makes Drew state, “I’m out, i eventually got to refer to it as.”

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

I think it’ll happen. I’m curious to see when it may happen.

Drew:

In context, I’ll enable you to start, easily need much more context I’ll—

Christina:

No, should you, no i am aware you love context what exactly context would you like? Because I have some it, jot it.

Drew:

I’d like all of it.

Christina:

Need the whole thing, okay. You happened to be on an online dating app, it doesn’t matter which. The truth is a hot woman, you’re like, “Yeah, that’s the stuff i love.” She is had gotten a beneficial bio, it’s quick, it is to the stage, all of you matched, she messages you quickly. You’re currently into that. Every person’s shocked. You may have good banter and she requests for your own quantity right after which texts and immediately states, “would you like to fulfill for a drink this Friday?” Whoa, it is hot. This really is hot things. All of you hook up, the vibes are perfect. Listed here is your first warning sign, she uses the term “wanderlust” in actual life.

Drew:

I am going to declare that I’m going to stay on this time because I have remained on dates with folks whom visit Burning guy. Very, why don’t we ensure that is stays going.

Christina:

Let us ensure that it stays going. She is an Aquarius.

Drew:

Okay. Oh, that’s another red flag.

Christina:

You are still in. Ok last one, we’re just likely to hit red flags now.

Drew:

I am frankly not scared of that after all. Which, it really is a red flag in the same manner so it need a red-flag for me because my personal mother’s an Aquarius, my personal ex is actually an Aquarius, that they had the same birthday celebration, a great deal to unpack truth be told there. I’ve asserted that i might performed with Aquariuses, but at exactly the same time, I clearly like Aquariuses, very.

Christina:

Okay, so weare going to keep moving on. Yeah, which is good.

Drew:

Hold off, wait, We have a concern. Really, perhaps you’ll can this, exactly what is their specific birthday? It Isn’t—

Christina:

I didn’t create a defined birthday celebration with this person.

Drew:

Okay, cool, provided that it’s not March fourth.

Christina:

It is not, and that I performed understand this about you and that I was actually attempting to remember the mother’s birthday celebration, but I imagined basically texted you, that would be a red-flag inside our friendship and that podcast recording. And so I didn’t do that.

Drew:

Okay, continue.

Christina:

She discusses the girl ex perhaps not continuous, but a decent amount for an initial date.

Drew:

I’ve been there. Yeah, that’s okay.

Christina:

Okay, that’s good. So now we will progress. We have eliminated previous date one. You stated date you’re fantastic. We are in, let’s say day three now.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

You have not slept with each other however, that really does feel crucial that you state, but based on exactly how the time goes, maybe you will.

Drew:

Have actually we produced on?

Christina:

You may have clearly generated down.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

You’re not decade outdated, seriously now.

Drew:

I’ve definitely been on first dates in which we did not make out, but that’s cool yeah.

Christina:

I stated next time, so…

Drew:

Oh correct, ok. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Christina:

She informs you that she does not obviously have a position up to she actually is only wealthy and looking for determination, wherever she can believe it is.

Drew:

Okay, and this absolutely forces myself towards like, I’m shedding interest, but i’ll remain on the day.

Christina:

You are going to stick to the big date?

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

That’s great. The following warning sign, she informs you, once again, on big date three, that this lady has perhaps not missed a Coachella nor a consuming Man since she ended up being 17.

Drew:

I am on my way to avoid it the entranceway, although not practically.

Christina:

Okay, okay.

Drew:

I’ve chosen that I am not planning to have intercourse with this particular person.

Christina:

You are simply — ok you have decided you are not going make love.

Drew:

But I’m nonetheless planning to stay.

Christina:

You are not going to right away rise and leave?

Drew:

Correct.

Christina:

Very discover another concern after that, will you, after this date is finished after it obviously concludes, might you follow through?

Drew:

Just how am we carrying out emotionally in my own life?

Christina:

Really Drew, that i merely cannot answer for you, bitch.

Drew:

I will say not likely, but section of me would like to determine if you may have another base, the next action you’re going to say is actually, would be that maybe, really.

Christina:

Okay, so had you maybe not chose after wealthy and just looking.

Drew:

Discover the fact. If someone had been to every Coachella and Burning guy and was actually a little bit less determined regarding it — oahu is the commitment to, “i really could never skip this,” combined with the, “i am merely wealthy and do not have employment.”

Christina:

Yeah Drew, I made a headache for your needs.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

That is what I was doing, that has been the purpose.

Drew:

I recently don’t want anyone who has visited Coachella, I really don’t would like them feeling — or consuming Man actually — like it’s great, I’m not judging you. I just, anyway—

Christina:

I will be a bit.

Drew:

Okay, great. What is the the next thing, the thing that was the following point you used to be likely to state?

Christina:

So envision then, you did perhaps not keep that time, perchance you slept together. Maybe you performed.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

Let’s say you are like a month into this and she’s someone who just doesn’t reply to texts for a full 2 days sometimes after which reappears with no explanation?

Drew:

Oh see, that’s great. That would get myself, that would create me personally, that would drive me personally crazy and that I will be involved with it.

Christina:

And that’s the matter that you would certainly be into, positive. Okay. Therefore state you’ve been matchmaking for a few months and she lets you know she is never study whatever you’ve written?

Drew:

Ooh, that’s interesting. I simply do not know how exactly we would arrive because i am a bit ridiculous and I also feel there are plenty times in which i will be having a discussion with somebody and stay love, “Oh, in fact I composed a bit about it. I’m able to deliver it to you when you need to know.” So-like, I Suppose—

Christina:

Yes, i understand that in regards to you, it turns out.

Drew:

Thus then it will mean that like, performed she lay in regards to reading all of them? Performed she only say, “Oh, we’ll read it,” and I didn’t follow through because I’m not that obnoxious? I might say… however, if I’ve been dating this person for three several months, there’s really otherwise taking place there mentally that like — because I don’t date people for three months. I both continue two times with someone or I have dated them for a time, generally there should be something’s really special here. So I do not think — i believe i mightn’t can 3 months with this individual.

Christina:

No, Really don’t think you’d both. I just desired to see just what you’ll answer this one. The Final one I Got ended up being that you were online dating for six months and she came across your family members and she became extremely near with these people and began spending time with them without letting you know, and I was actually like, that is like—

Drew:

Yeah, that will never occur.

Christina:

Too much.

Drew:

Unless she had been a direct woman for some reason, so subsequently…

Christina:

Well, crazier things have happened, Drew.

Drew:

That would be the biggest red flag of.

Christina:

I do believe this was truly beneficial. I do believe something’s enjoyable about all of the games that people’ve starred for each and every other, is that the two of you were want, “Ooh, but I need some framework, like what are you doing in my own existence that i am generating such choices?” And that’s fundamentally not an element of the video game we’re undertaking, but…

Drew:

Nevertheless now truly.

Christina:

Now its, today it really is.

Drew:

Thus yeah.

Christina:

Nowadays we are able to explore the primary topic, that I believe will likely be truly fascinating, largely for me as someone who does not do that which we’re about to talk about. And everything we’re planning to talk about is DM sliding, Instagram dating.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

All those things sort of fun hoe crap.

Drew:

Insta Tale connected internet dating? I’m in addition thrilled. I really do try this thing much, but Im excited because i’ll learn from a professional, the visitor, Shelli Nicole.

Christina:

Our very own guest, Shelli, i recently desire everyone to put their unique fingers with each other for Shelli Nicole. Ah, the group goes crazy.

Shelli:

Wait, am I able to talk now?

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

Yeah, absolutely.

Drew:

You intend to introduce yourself, Shelli?

Christina:

You need to reveal about your self? Reveal who you are, tell us exactly what your package is actually.

Shelli:

Yeah. Okay, yeah. My bargain, my personal price. I am Shelli, I will be society Editor at Autostraddle, freelance writer in other places, very dyke, very scared of mermaids, young adults, and mermaids being youngsters in specific. Very yeah, that is my personal small lovely package. I am sizzling hot.

Christina:

Can confirm.

Drew:

Certainly, can verify.

Shelli:

Thank you so much.

Christina:

Notoriously an audio method, but i recently want to verify for audience.

Shelli:

Precisely why I tossed that available to choose from, just in case. I do want to take them in. Yeah, but that is me.

Christina:

Yeah, positively. Our company is therefore excited to own you on and talk about this, due to the fact again, it’s not anything i actually do. I understand it is something which Drew does. I’m sure this is certainly a Drew pastime. Thus perhaps we should start here. It never feels as though a super really serious hobby, it feels as though an enjoyable time pastime, a lot more than a what’s truly planning to come of the knowledge. Thus, sorts of communicate with me personally regarding what takes place in the DM slides therefore the Instagram tales and social networking you children are jibber jabbering pertaining to, we’ll just be grandpa over here.

Shelli:

Drew, do you want to get very first?

Drew:

Oh, really I feel like we perhaps agree on this, correct myself easily’m completely wrong, but i do believe Instagram is the best queer internet dating software.

Shelli:

1000 per cent. This is the finest.

Christina:

I have heard this from other queers.

Shelli:

Absolutely. It provides you practically everything required, unless a person’s exclusive, but even though you’re private, child, We’ll see everything about you in a few kind of way. Enjoy it is the greatest.

Drew:

Hold off, i wish to hear more info on that. I want to hear a lot more about that for the reason that it’s like my — I don’t know what to do. When anyone tend to be personal plus they struck on me personally. I’m like, i can not do just about anything along with you. Like, sorry.

Shelli:

Precisely what do you desire me to carry out with this specific? Very normally 50% of that time period whenever I run across somebody who’s personal on the primary web page, within their bio they possibly have actually a website or they’ve an at to what they carry out IRL. Most recently, this happened literally possibly two days back, this cook hottie slid inside my DMs, and I ended up being like, “Great, I do not cook, you are sizzling hot, let’s see just what this when it comes to.” Boom, personal. And that I said Goddamn, however in their own bio they had a link on their web site, but then they had the ats of their chef page of this cafe which they work with, so of course we went indeed there and that I’m love, fine, making this the bistro. They can be like the mind chef there, definitely they will end up being tagged somewhere in the pictures.

Christina:

Right.

Shelli:

Thus I then went back to her page, looked at the woman image, I found myself like, In my opinion i acquired a small amount of who this is. Then moved to the restaurant page, absolutely discovered the girl, then hit up those tagged photographs.

Christina:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Shelli:

Whereby the woman pals tag her in, and I simply kept going through the bistro’s web page until I found enough photographs where I happened to be like, “Yeah, I’d find out along with you,” immediately after which I went back towards DM and I was actually like, “Oh, so let me know more!” Like, I don’t know everything currently.

Drew:

Incredible.

Christina:

It is amazing.

Shelli:

Yeah, it really is an enjoyable online game. Yeah, a sapphic sleuth, if you will. I favor it.

Christina:

We completely will, please see Shelli’s spinoff podcast,

Sapphic Sleuths.

Can’t await that.

Shelli:

Legit with love, if citizens were to send myself such things as, “Oh, this individual’s blocked.” Child, I got you. I’d like to allow you to, i obtained you, ten full minutes. ten full minutes, ten dollars. I acquired you.

Christina:

Includes a tagline and everything, i enjoy it. Drew, what’s the MO? Like, what exactly is the ambiance? How do you do this?

Drew:

On Instagram?

Christina:

Yeah.

Drew:

Yeah, hm, which is an extremely great concern. Personally I think like i must say i will not follow back unless somebody isn’t really private, that is generally speaking the way I work. I’m not sure, it simply feels — you’re right, truly reasonable stakes in the same way that, I’m not sure. If someone else’s hot and they stick to me personally and they seem cool, I will follow all of them back, but i shall also state as a result of — this is so ridiculous because I have like 4,000 supporters or something, it is not, i really do not need most followers, but because Autostraddle is available in a specific world in the homosexual net, I’ve had become more… I don’t know, there is a vibe that i could grab, i do believe often, of whether I’m… i’m like you’re doing all of your very own situations, you are hot, you are cool. In addition to, which is most likely who I would be into, is anyone who has their life and is also undertaking their particular situations. Also it doesn’t feel just like an admirer thing?

Christina:

Just.

Drew:

For the reason that it simply gets to dynamics that I’ve discovered try not to work. It doesn’t {mean that|imply that|sig